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Lucifer.Tyloo(UD)-vs-DkH.Starshaped(HMN)

Name:Echo Isles (EI)
Max players:2
Team 1
Lucifer.Tyloo (236 apm)

Team 2
DkH.Starshaped (148 apm)

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Category:Custom game
Realm:LAN/Unknown
Map:Echo Isles
Players:2
Match length:00:30:28
Version:v1.26 TFT
Submitter:tbljesus
Upload date:2011-06-25 11:03:09
Downloads:882
Tournament:Zotac
Filesize:241 KB
User rating:
7.67 in 18 votes

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tbljesus
tbljesus has 26315 points
tbljesus has 26315 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 11:03:29

really a LOL game. Dreadlord vs Panda

MalaVida
MalaVida has 8110 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 03:49:12

WoW knowing this I need to watch it 100% :D

Nort
Nort has 3190 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 11:17:07

Can't believe that this is lucifer

CorruptSouls
CorruptSouls has 0 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 11:18:15

wp by ss.

ToLDK
ToLDK has 6500 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 11:21:31

hohoho
i expected to see this match someday

Sorlag
Sorlag has 2305 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 11:23:22

:/ luci is giving up on wc3

just look at his apm...

still superb gameplay by him

AYBAB2Trolls
AYBAB2Trolls has 4865 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 11:23:50

no1 can shut him up now.
His ego may have doubled after this

saftkanne
saftkanne has 2320 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 11:58:08

top pls

RaRuM
RaRuM has 4565 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 12:00:48

Someone won the lottery! One in a million xd

NaturalHigh
NaturalHigh has 4510 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 12:11:49

Beating an ex-progamer in a 30min game can't be pure luck. Also hate coming from admins does just look pathetic.
Wp by starship.

RaRuM
RaRuM has 4565 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 12:18:53

"Ex"-progamer? Rofl. It's not hate ZoZ it's a FACT. Luci was already at top 5 of wc3 players when StarShaped was playing Sims dude. It was a fun game.

NaturalHigh
NaturalHigh has 4510 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 12:41:02

If you're just gonna bullshit and hate, better keep it to yourself. Can't stand this kind of behavior, especially not from admins. You are supposed to represent the authority here and not be some jealous person making up "FACTs"

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 14:03:08

Please tell me what was 'lucky' about this game. I think it was pretty one-sided all the way through and I never really thought I was going to lose when I saw it was DL/ghouls vs Panda.

RaRuM
RaRuM has 4565 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 15:14:35

You're just not being objective. So lets keep it simple to the lowest grade.

Who's the best player: Lucifer or Starshaped?


oneBIRDshow
oneBIRDshow has 11280 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 15:37:36

None of both. ^^

oneBIRDshow
oneBIRDshow has 11280 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 15:41:16

Nice game. Panda + Rifles' really a viable option vs UD since all early on melee will get raped so hard. I will try it soon.

NaturalHigh
NaturalHigh has 4510 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 15:54:38

The guy who said "one in a million" is obviously the one not being objective here. Having PRO written under your name doesn't make your crap legit. So just admit that you were wrong, and we'll move on.

RaRuM
RaRuM has 4565 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 16:18:49

Mr. I want to be a PRO member hits again! Ofc I'm not pro on wc3, I got the PRO membership of replayers. Also yes since you're unable to stick at the matter this is over :)

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 16:24:40

It's not about who is the better player. My question is what, in this particular game, did you think was luck? I honestly think you're just a hater.

@onebirdshow
It's not really good, MK + mass rifles works better because bolt + rifle focus has good synergy. Panda is an AoE hero and doesn't work as well with the focus fire of rifles. I only went rifles because I knew I had pretty much won at that point and I assumed he would try a destro push. The fact that he made aboms almost let him come back into the game (he must have seen some of my reps, because I can't think of any other reason he would blindly go aboms, lol). Imbalanced Panda was what won it for me, not the rifles. Panda > ghoul openings. The best thing luci could do is scout my tavern build and make his own panda instead of dreadlord.

NaturalHigh
NaturalHigh has 4510 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 16:35:11

I don't know if you're just acting childish on purpose or if that's how you really are. But the question you're asking is just silly, and it proves you're just another hater.
But since you're asking for an answer to your simple question, here goes:
In this game Starshaped was the better player.
Overall it is obviously Lucifer and everybody knows that, that's why it's such a silly question. But being the better player in general doesn't mean that it's "lottery luck/one in a million chance" whenever you lose to someone less accomplished. Sure it's most certainly true that Lucifer would win most of the games vs Starshaped if given the chance. Yet the sher exaggeration, shows that you dispise Starshaped.

RaRuM
RaRuM has 4565 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 01:21:18

Also just a last fact, I do not feel hate for any of you guys not even hate for the worst flamer on the site, exactly I do not feel anything for something that comes trough a PC, that's one of the reasons why I'm admin. So I'm sorry but I have no feelings for you xDDDDD

NaturalHigh
NaturalHigh has 4510 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 03:55:47

That is good. Eventhough your previous comments tell a different story.
Also please stop butchering the word "fact", if you don't understand the meaning of it. A fact is a universal truth.(2+2=4 is a fact, whatever you feel for someone is not)

kouassi
kouassi has 2110 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 07:10:03

bla bla bla

CorruptSouls
CorruptSouls has 0 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 11:01:47

i doubt he ever has that much freetime analysing ur reps :D

Benzene
Benzene has 1155 points

Posted: 2011-07-01 20:25:48

Nerdism overload. :)

foxx
foxx has 1045 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 12:04:07

nice fun game

uMAD_Bro
uMAD_Bro has 5005 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 15:17:56

"a chinese penis" :D

WarchiefRich
WarchiefRich has 3720 points
WarchiefRich has 3720 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 13:10:22

trash down, legit talent up.

tbljesus
tbljesus has 26315 points
tbljesus has 26315 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 14:28:05

lol ?

Nase
Nase has 7285 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 14:12:08

seems like dkh's best 4on4 player is also skilled in solo.

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 16:26:05



RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 16:29:03

haha :D

AcuVue
AcuVue has 4115 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 16:27:50

well luci likes risky strat , but if he loses that is his problem and nobody cares about if he were playing serious or not .. but however i don't think he minds about it : )

@ rarum/game : even i , and i don't mean it in an ironic way , have to agree that starshaped played really well and deserved that win !! congrat , i didn't think that this would happen ..

BlaiZ
BlaiZ has 7745 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 16:35:29

Human weak race? xDDDDD change to orc Starshaped and watch what tours win u rofl.
Final Zotac 2 NE, Semifinals 2 Nes 1 Orc 1 Human.
Last Win WCG NE
Last win Blizzcon NE
N/C for topic "orc is imba =)"

Anima
Anima has 1765 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 16:48:03

sure , pls see the goods players orc in zotac , they are few , then for sure , cant have 3 orc in semifinal... , same for hu , the ne was just more numerous , but ye you are right , all know it , hu is the stronguest race in wc3 , orc weakest .

oneBIRDshow
oneBIRDshow has 11280 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 01:31:04

Oh, c'mon, BlaiZ. Stop QQ-ing all the time about your race being super weak. Your assumptions are pointless and simply wrong since FoCuS wins every second cup he partakes at.

HouseMD
HouseMD has 775 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 16:59:51

Saying that Starshaped is better than Lucifer might be a bit rich. With that said, Lucifer can't do whatever strat he wants to and expect to win a player of stars quality since he obv is good. I'd however expect Luci to win at least 9/10 if they were playing seriously.

melina16
melina16 has 0 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 17:00:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF70vsvM6Cw he is a legend.

uMAD_Bro
uMAD_Bro has 5005 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 18:41:02

He is and will ever be ! That´s sure.

ToLDK
ToLDK has 6500 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 19:26:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjS1H4KTxYo

:P

oneBIRDshow
oneBIRDshow has 11280 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 01:33:54

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjS1H4KTxYo" Pffffff.... ;)

MalaVida
MalaVida has 8110 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 04:27:00

Stomp dodge, so cool :)

SunriseQ_Q
SunriseQ_Q has 21745 points

Posted: 2011-07-01 21:55:32

if we start like that i found one fitting the post of blaiz and anima beyond...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2mst7QIkAY

Medivh
Medivh has 35365 points
Medivh has 35365 points


Posted: 2011-06-25 17:02:45

rly lol game :D though if were luci going panda game could have been different :D

Rob
Rob has 905 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 18:18:22

why no top replay?

nEKurCo
nEKurCo has 4425 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 19:50:40

"he must have seen some of my reps, because I can't think of any other reason he would blindly go aboms, lol"
Joke? xD

Quellilo
Quellilo has 4250 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 04:45:44

+1 haha

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-06-26 05:35:07

stop being so jelly. Sky watched this rep, too. Pros dig my style, sup?

Sorlag
Sorlag has 2305 points

Posted: 2011-06-25 21:20:09

this is just as worth as luci vs acidrain

EllectronicBaSs
EllectronicBaSs has 370 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 02:51:28

it is funny that i know the winner from 10th min,but luci had whole game chance...

YesIamZontik
YesIamZontik has 750 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 06:28:56

Actually, very onesided game. No chances for Luci.

Anima
Anima has 1765 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 06:44:22

a lot of haters , starshaped did a good game , no luck in this game ( exept maybe to have a panda when he have a dl ) wp.

nEKurCo
nEKurCo has 4425 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 07:32:16

Ye starshaped did a good game but his micro was often so bad but he had an expo and was producing mass rifles so it wasnt rly a problem. Lucifer could win if he didnt have lost his dl at expo;

hristokzz
hristokzz has 1565 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 07:36:51

very nice game wp by starshaped

BmlPtPPT
BmlPtPPT has 370 points

Posted: 2011-06-26 09:16:42

lucifer is a way better player , but this was kinda an instant build order/hero win for starshaped so anyway this games means nothing

itsRaining-
itsRaining- has 11344 points
itsRaining- has 11344 points


Posted: 2011-07-01 13:17:06

I fail to see how a zotac game was a ''fun game'' for lucifer. Just because he does random strats every single game doesnt mean that he doesnt play as well as he can to win.

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-07-01 15:21:10

Not to mention the fact that panda + mass rifles isn't exactly the most cookie cutter strategy either ^^

Sorlag
Sorlag has 2305 points

Posted: 2011-07-01 16:50:01

just see his apm, its usually 100 actions higher. Besides that, anybody can see that he obviously played with totally lazy micro (only microing the easiest units/actions)

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-07-01 18:06:23

Because my APM is as high as it usually is, right?

No, fact is there is no grounds for you to say Lucifer played 'fun' or 'bad' when I played even stranger strategy and had a lot lower APM than I usually do. I can even tell you that I knew as soon as I saw Dreadlord that I had won, so I didn't micro all game pretty much =)

ImOnlyHuman
ImOnlyHuman has 2835 points

Posted: 2011-07-01 17:11:00

Lucifer has way more achievements, so let's stick to the game in particular: it was fun to watch, that's it. Starshaped played well but he has a long way to go in order to be considered better than Lucifer, that IS a fact.

WarchiefRich
WarchiefRich has 3720 points
WarchiefRich has 3720 points


Posted: 2011-07-01 17:41:43

nah fact is Starshaped will be remembered as a legend while lucifer a nobody

SunriseQ_Q
SunriseQ_Q has 21745 points

Posted: 2011-07-01 22:07:00

luci-who?

RainbowChaser
RainbowChaser has 12840 points
RainbowChaser has 12840 points


Posted: 2011-07-02 06:16:46

whocifer?

capu
capu has 1410 points
capu has 1410 points


Posted: 2011-07-02 03:06:21

The question who is better, Lucifer or Starshaped is no contest and is obvious to anyone who knows a little bit about the scene. Starshaped has won Remind and I think we all agree Remind > Lucifer. From these facts we can easily deduce that Starshaped > Lucifer.

ToLDK
ToLDK has 6500 points

Posted: 2011-07-02 03:26:28

lol... I hope that was ironic.
Have you seen the game between starshaped and remind?
Remind tried to creep red camp with 2 heros only when starshaped arrived with 10 rifles... How can you deduce anything AT ALL from that?
I'm not comparing starshaped to lucifer, starshaped to remind or remind to lucifer, but i'm saying that your reasoning for your conclusion just wrong.

Anyway, if you were using irony (which is hard to detect via internet), forget anything i said here. otherwise i'll keep my word

kouassi
kouassi has 2110 points

Posted: 2011-07-02 04:49:59

easy man it was ironic

ToLDK
ToLDK has 6500 points

Posted: 2011-07-02 10:18:10

Dont worry I didn't mean to be rude xD just questioned his point, but apparently, I fail :P

Quellilo
Quellilo has 4250 points

Posted: 2011-07-02 06:44:36

right clicker won? :D



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