|Elven_Star|| Posted: 2011-04-04 11:51:45 |
And I was beginning to like HawK. Not after this.
|nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 11:54:18 |
flaming a w3 legend... ~_~
|TrainingforWCG|| Posted: 2011-04-04 12:05:30 |
hawk what a joke lol!
|nEKurCo|| Posted: 2011-04-04 12:41:03 |
wp by lucifer. He had to play like that to protect his expo and prod he didnt have the choice..
|AYBAB2Trolls|| Posted: 2011-04-04 12:50:27 |
No flames here, he called him gosu. And he is not a legend.
@1 Dunno why shouldnt u like him after this game.
|RaRuM|| Posted: 2011-04-04 12:57:19 |
|FsWind|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:25:01 |
this was game 3, EI was game 2
|nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:30:34 |
elven, what about going on msn ? instead of suddently muting me there like a child would do...
| Elven_Star|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:33:49 |
You refuse to have a civilized conversation so, no thanks.
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:37:43 |
haha ye sure. Its actually you who refuses a civilized conversation by muting me on msn. U take decisions alone like nothing less than a dictator would do in a country he rules, not to mention that this decision is fully unfair. So ye I have pretty much all reasons to complain.
| Elven_Star|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:38:58 |
Ok, I didn't wanna do this, but I'm gonna upload the message log so other people can judge:
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:41:23 |
u will upload the dozens of messages you censured from me and others members here as well ? not ? sad.
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:43:22 |
thousands* not dozens sry
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 13:54:41 |
To be treated of racist for saying "russians ftw" by a site-owner acting like a dictator is so funny really :(
| RaRuM|| Posted: 2011-04-04 14:37:43 |
a) He's not the site-owner.
b) Our time given here is 100% voluntary so we won't waste it discussing with you.
c) Stop it or you'll get a taste of our unstoppable rage.
d) If all this points are clear, you're welcome :)
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:06:39 |
a) He acts like he is.
b) Nothing to add there, what you just answered is more than desired to please me.
c) I've no doubt of that.
d) You don't want to discuss anything like you said yourself in b) so none point of those points just as many others are clear, but what I have seen today allowed me to figure out what kind of guy I was trying to talk with, so things are now clear on this point at least :)
|Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 14:54:48 |
wow hawk, what a joke you are, you always nerdrage when you get outplayed
this series only shows how hawk is no where near lucifers lvl
| AYBAB2Trolls|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:04:58 |
Well lucifer is a damn legend. Obviously they arent on the same level.
| Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:08:36 |
yea but some ppl think hawk was close to win at somepoint, or "maybe if hawk had done x move he would've won"
but things don't work that way
| Nite)|| Posted: 2011-04-05 08:17:40 |
didnt u said before he isnt?! LOL
|RainbowChaser|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:03:54 |
This just shows what happens if you have 0 towers in your main during late-game. You need to add 1-3 towers to stop destroyers from containing you. Hawk had this, but threw it away.
|MadmaN|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:13:40 |
actually Hawk can compete with Lucifer, and what I personally dont understand is how everyone roots for Lucifer...I mean why are you not supporting Hawk at least from that perspective that he is one of the lasts capable players, who still does give a shit about this game in whole Europe ?
| Elven_Star|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:16:07 |
That's exactly how I felt about HawK....right before this game.
| MadmaN|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:19:40 |
If the whole community tolerate razzorÂ´s or corruptÂ´s behaviour, this is nothing serious. He was just frustrated from this game and had to blow some steam off, now stop acting like everyone here is some fuckin moralist. In the end, he did not say anything extremely unmannered...
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:25:40 |
The whole community tolerates them ???? since when ?
The community doesn't tolerate razzor's behaviour ("loool omg my mouse is broken fu noob this is only why you win"), the community doesn't tolerate corrupt's behaviour either ("hi noob gl noob fu noob bye noob").
But you're right, comparison to them, HawK's behaviour is nothing big.
In this game.
| RainbowChaser|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:26:26 |
I mean I'm a lot worse manner-wise and I'm still a celebrated hero/legend so cut HawK some slack imo.
| MadmaN|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:28:02 |
Yes community tolerates them. Of course you many people posts replays when they are flaming, but at the end of the day, people still respects them (at least razzor and maggo from badmanners) and they have options to join clans etc. Its not like they are isolated because of their behaviour...
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:31:39 |
how do you know community tolerates them ? how do you know people respect them at the end of the day ? how do you know they have options to join clans ? how do you know they aren't isolated because of their behaviour ?
you only make suppositions that you believe to be true....
| MadmaN|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:33:59 |
omg you are so annoying, ok u dont tolerate em, u dont like Hawk. Point taken.
| nEBuZ|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:39:23 |
I don't like unmanners, wherever they come from, that's right. But what I don't like more than unmanners is people speaking as if they expressed the global feeling, in other words, people speaking without evidence and testimonies :) You can call this being annoying, of course. Peace.
| RainbowChaser|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:43:06 |
Yet you make a generalization against all Russians and then flip out when elven takes action against you.
| MadmaN|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:45:37 |
but it also suits for you also, if I follow your logic, ok here are "evidence" lol: razzor is in a clan with 77 members which obviously dont have problems to be in a same team as oh so bad bad bad flamer, lets move on .. corrupt is in IFS, 29 members, same logic applied. Maggo is in n!faculty...same logic. Satisfied ? ok now your turn to prove my "proofs" invalid. Or finally stop being annoying. What I dont like are smartass people like you xD
| Bloodmage|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:52:22 |
100% agree with madman and rainbowchaser at this point.
just so ridiculous, how can you get to "not like" someone because he said a MAAYYYYYYBE ironical "gosu" to someone who certainly is/was a gosu.
i mean cmon, even if he said "FUCK THAT SHIT I HATE FUCKING DESTROYERS OMG gg wp" it wouldnt be anywhere near badmanner that has to be pointed out.
i like hawk especially for this game because 1. he didnt use that many towers, which is kinda daring, and 2. because he showed emotions because of his losses that COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.
just makes him more human and sympathic while still being far from badmanner.
| RaRuM|| Posted: 2011-04-04 18:06:55 |
What about "rat style"?
| Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 18:21:42 |
" he didnt use that many towers"
lol watch game 1, at least 15 towers each base before training his first army unit
the result is that hawk lamed the max he could (game 1) and showed his angry bad manner (game 3 end series) but still couldn't beat lucifer's innovative and intelligent style (panda + alch, solo DR, dk + lich + pit lord)
| Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 18:23:21 |
lol, what ? how old are you?
| AoD-Ra)|| Posted: 2011-04-10 14:40:28 |
easy to answer. these guys are in clans and actually people still watch their reps to learn from or to be entertained.
think before you write please... and don t try to sound too philosophic. thanks.
|Leeaoe|| Posted: 2011-04-04 15:51:19 |
Hawk was a bit angry, I think he controlled it quite well. :)
|ToLDK|| Posted: 2011-04-04 16:07:47 |
I don't care about what HawK said.
I'd have done much worse
|Anima|| Posted: 2011-04-04 17:09:58 |
Nice game .
|RainbowChaser|| Posted: 2011-04-04 18:28:45 |
Again, it's not that Hawk massed towers in g1 because he is "lame," he did it because IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO RESPOND TO QUICK DESTROYERS.
When will you idiots realize this? No Human will make more towers than he needs, because it would be counterproductive to do so. The towers are only there for survival. Did the UD go fiends? 2-4 towers is enough. Did the UD go for a fast expansion? Probably only 0-2 towers needed. Did UD go for a 9 minute destroyer push? THEN BUILD 30 FUCKING TOWERS AT BOTH BASES or you will lose to the push. It's as simple as that. It's the proper response and it's in fact the only viable response. ONE MORE TIME: If Human expands and Undead goes for a destroyer push, MASS TOWERS IS THE ONLY WAY TO SURVIVE.
Learn how the damn game works before you start whining about "lame."
This has been a public service announcement brought to you by every single Human player.
|Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 18:56:32 |
mass tanks (like game 2) and mass tower (like game 1) are just easier to play. t2 rifle caster expo can be just as effective as early expo in good hands (you can easily see that on game 3).
maybe not even early expanding vs solo panda can be an answer, but most human players dont even worry to scout ud's hero correctly (not sayin hawk didn't), they're all like "gonna lv 3 then early expo every game every map"
| Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 19:04:17 |
you're maybe right if we consider the HU is always doing the same (no matter uds early decisions), but do you really think the only option is going expo when the ud is solo panda, and then massing towers and low hp units even when you already know the ud is panda?
maybe if he scouted uds panda before expoing and then going for a dif strat could just work aswell
| RainbowChaser|| Posted: 2011-04-04 19:16:05 |
A destroyer push happens long after a Human as already committed to an expansion. You will, however, only see a Human really start massing towers AFTER he scouts that a destroyer push is coming AKA it's a REACTION. I'm not talking about panda at all. I'm just saying that massing towers is just a proper response to certain situations. Nobody is massing towers for fun. Towers are made to survive the tech disadvantage you have because you went for an early expo and in the case of a destroyer push A LOT of towers are needed. That's just the way it is. Blame it on the UD for going for a destroyer push if you think mass towers is lame.
| Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-04 21:24:43 |
massing tower is a response to UD's destros push thats a response to early expanding
it starts on hu :D
|avalance|| Posted: 2011-04-05 03:19:47 |
This is exactly how to play ud. Finally someone who might show us the true power of undead again.
Top replay imo.
| Sorlag|| Posted: 2011-04-07 22:16:00 |
hope so :D
wtb remind vs lucifer on some zotac finals
|Vurbil|| Posted: 2011-04-07 21:56:04 |
Maybe I am missing something. Could someone explain to me what Hawk said that was so bad? I saw him say, "rat style, huh?" to which Lucifer replied, "yep." What does that even mean? Whatever it means, it can't be too offensive since it's not a personal insult or anything.
Then at the end he says, "okay gg gosu." He could have been serious or he could have been sarcastic due to frustration. Either way, it seems completely harmless to me. Not at all worthy of comments like, "I'll never like Hawk after this." You're acting as though he said, "F U you motherf'er" or something. His comments were mild and harmless.
|B-RAD|| Posted: 2011-04-10 17:02:34 |
Doesn't matter how you win .. no matter what :)
HU'S mass tower at expo.. Hawk should have planned ahead
|SunriseQ_Q|| Posted: 2011-04-10 18:15:10 |
nice game, sad chat
|iG-Chico|| Posted: 2011-04-14 02:46:47 |
That's because of undead play styles like this that humans need some towers and expo :)